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Ticket system under fire

Glitch in system turns football ticket distribution into contest of luck, rankles students

By Emily Gillespie | News reporter

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Published: Sunday, November 1, 2009

Updated: Sunday, November 1, 2009

It’s not news that the athletic department’s new ticketing system is causing anguish to many students.

University senior Stephanie Herr, who missed out on a ticket to Saturday’s game, can attest to that.

“That was an amazing landmark game and I missed it,” Herr said. “I had to sit at my apartment across the street, hearing the buzzer and the crowd and then watching it two seconds later on TV. I’ve only been able to go to one football game this year. It just infuriates me.”

The problem, Herr explained, is a glitch in the new system that allows one computer to get the user a ticket and then that person is able to get their friends tickets by continually logging in and out with their information, essentially turning the system into a popularity contest — whoever has a friend who has gotten through will be able to get a ticket.

“It becomes this game of what computer is the lucky one,” she said. “I know they were trying to make it more efficient, not have to skip class on Monday. This just isn’t the way to do it.”

The problem is so widespread, Herr said, that people are publicly posting their student ID numbers and passwords on Facebook statuses in hopes that a friend with a “lucky computer” will get them a ticket.

“It’s hard to believe. That’s a security issue, too,” she said. “It is just such a freak thing.”

Duck Athletic Fund Executive Director Garrett Klassy said this was the first he has ever heard of the glitch, saying most of the complaints he has heard are that the server had crashed, which he says is not the case.

“It’s one 100 percent incorrect,” he said. “I think the big issue is that the team is really doing well this year; there are more students who want to go to the game. In the old distribution system, students could camp overnight to guarantee themselves a ticket, but there’s no way to really guarantee yourself a ticket anymore.”

ASUO Sen. Alex McCafferty, chairman of the Athletics and Contracts Finance Committee, says the system changed because some students would skip classes to wait in line
Monday mornings.

Fundamentally, he said, the new system allows more students — who all pay the incidental fee — better access to the tickets.

“It’s not supposed to be this way,” McCafferty said. “Students shouldn’t have to choose between getting their education and their being able to attend football games, so we made
this system.” 

McCafferty plans to bring the issue up in a formal meeting in a few weeks. Reintroducing the old distribution system of physical ticket distribution is out of the question, McCafferty said.

McCafferty said that because online ticket distribution is more desirable than waiting in line, the economics of the situation is ultimately the problem.

“The demand has skyrocketed, and the supply really hasn’t,” he said. “I would argue that since the system is so convenient and successful that it is a victim of its own success.”

For some students, especially Herr in her last year at the University, the system is causing more harm than good and her football game memories are the real loss.

“In general, I’m feeling really upset and really discouraged. I’m a senior, this is my last year. If something does change, it’s going to be too late,” she said.

egillespie@dailyemerald.com

Comments

15 comments
will
Mon Nov 9 2009 16:49
McCafferty plans to bring the issue up in a formal meeting in a few weeks. Reintroducing the old distribution system of physical ticket distribution is out of the question, McCafferty said.

Shows your "power"

Your name
Wed Nov 4 2009 03:38
Student tickets are NOT free! Every single student pays for them as part of their incidental fee, and the ASUO purchases them from the Athletic Department. Students who could care less about sports are forced to pay this fee, and the die-hard football fanatics who DID pay their part for a ticket can't get one because of system issues. I agree with the above statement that students should have to pay for tickets separate from their mandatory ASUO fees, and we should be given physical tickets so that we can give/sell them away rather than be punished for missing a game.
Your name
Tue Nov 3 2009 01:00
I don't know who this McCafferty guy is to pass judgment that she is "100% wrong". In fact, he is 100% wrong in this statement. I work in the ticketing industry as an online broker, I buy tickets on a daily basis and have use the paciolan system that goducks.com uses as a professional for years. In fact, when there is a VWR (virtual waiting room), there is loopholes that you can use to continually login and search for tickets after you are able to gain access in a browser window.

Granted, increased demand has made it all the more difficult to get access to a ticket. However, there is a reason that I was able to attend the USC game, and every game that I wish to attend-- and that reason is lots of experience using ticketing websites has given me a large advantage over people who don't buy tickets through online outets every day.

When I heard that part of the $800,000 of extra ASUO funds would be used for this ticketing system, I knew there would be problems. However, I didn't know that the U O would continue to use old ticketing technology (paciolan) that can't adequately and fairly handle the huge amount of ticketing requests. 100% electronic distribution is flawed.

My primary argument was that true fans aren't the ones who get the tickets. Granted, we all have lives and everyone that pays fees should be entitled to a chance at tickets. Why not have a split system, with normal distributions at autzen stadium the day after the electronic distribution date. Save say, 1,000 tickets for those fans who missed out but want to go BADLY enough to stand in line in the cold. I know if I wouldn't have gotten a ticket, I would have been in that line.

The plan mitigated this problem by providing that if you attend all home games you get priority allotment for the civil war. Well, how about the thousands of students that were ousted from USC due to the website and now lose that opportunity, even though they would have been dedicated enough to make 100% of the game had the system allowed it.

Devon
Mon Nov 2 2009 20:54
there has to be more to the story on why she didnt get a ticket, if she signed on 5 minutes before six she probably wont get one, in saying that though, I had a really hard time getting a ticket for the usc game, i signed on 4 hours before 6 and refreshed the page every half hourand when it got to 6, the word box wouldnt show anything, thats a problem w/ the system, not on my end, so there defently are adjustments need to be made.
Ducktime
Mon Nov 2 2009 15:34
OR campaign the school to build onto Autzen Stadium, and Allocate half of those seats to students and half to businesses and the General public. Maybe they add 10,000 seats, the school makes more money and Autzen gets crazier.
Tim L.
Mon Nov 2 2009 15:30
You are all a bunch of complainers. When I was a senior at Oregon I missed the USC game too, I was two away from the counter when the last ticket was given out. Oh, by the way the team won that game too behind Dennis Dixon and J. Stew. 2 hours of waiting for nothing that day could have been prevented had I just been able to log onto a computer while I was in class to get the thing done.
Your name
Mon Nov 2 2009 14:53
Why can't we go back to the camp-outs, but have the distribution on a Saturday or Sunday (when nobody would miss class)?
Your name
Mon Nov 2 2009 11:21
Yes, make students PAY for tickets and reduce ASUO fees.

I'm certain poor, die-hard students will scrounge up enough money for games. Then all the "casual" fans will either have to pony up the money or preferably not go. ASUO believing this is a good system is a joke.

Cam Hirtle
Mon Nov 2 2009 06:13
The system is really awful. Last year, yes, they had the distribution on a school day. However, they also allotted each class year one hour of distribution time. This essentially cuts the people logging onto goducks.com down significantly. Then someone decided, "Hey, I have a wonderful idea. Let's have ALL students log into the web page at once, that way the web site reaches max capacity and dedicated fans that never miss games get screwed out of their tickets." I mean really, the plan was flawed from the start. Either fix the issue or let people camp for tickets who really want one. I have reserved one ticket without having a friend log in for me because I either can't log onto the web page or it kicks you off at distribution time even when already logged in. It's atrocious, complete mess.
Kurt
Mon Nov 2 2009 03:57
And even when you have ticket there are loopholes. I went into the Mo center at 2pm to watch some of the games, when I left nobody stamped my hand...I didn't know the policy of hand stamps, and there wasn't any sign or anything. Later I tried to re-enter and was denied. Then they almost didn't allow me to enter the stadium for the game, all because I didn't get a stupid little handstamp when I left the Mo. Ridiculous. I had a ticket! If they're going to track the tickets so carefully, maybe they should come up with something better than a dumb handstamp.
Your name
Mon Nov 2 2009 02:50
Here is an interesting fact...the ASUO President gets a free ticket to whatever bowl game the Ducks football team will end up playing in. This "service" is provided by the UO alumni Association. So what incentive does Emma Kallaway have to address this issue?

Absolutely none.

Chris
Mon Nov 2 2009 02:40
Get rid of the "incidental fee" and make all students purchase their own tickets individually. That's all it takes. Sorry, ASUO, no more random hundreds of thousands of dollars each year to go to tahiti and get facials. The student body president needs to give the money back to us, so we have more freedom to spend the "incidental fees" how we deem necessary...not a miniature corrupt government by kids without even BAs, let alone any valuable experience I couldn't get working at a McDonalds 9-5.
dUckbOy
Mon Nov 2 2009 02:07
Bring back the old school ticket camp-outs...I miss those.
Your name
Mon Nov 2 2009 02:01
its simple. before school starts, you camp out for student tickets, then when school starts you buy season tickets. every other school does it this way besides oregon. the people who made the system 2 years ago didnt even go to games, they just wanted an easy way to get tickets for them because they were lazy.
Isaac Rosenthal
Mon Nov 2 2009 01:39
There's no good answer to the question. One of the awesome things about Oregon is that student tix are free, but that means more people are going to try and get them. Making people skip classes is not practical, and this system isn't perfect, but it sort of seems like there's no good solution.






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